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Fourth places?


Are Social sites like SecondLife, Habbo Hotel, Myspace, Hyves the ‘fourth places’?

HowardSchultz, of Starbucks fame, didn’t come up with the phrase “ThirdPlace” – he just gave us a lot of them to hang out in. Ray Oldenburgwrote about this topic and its importance in civic life. A shortoverview is on Wikipedia .Personally, I would be tempted to talk of cyberspace meeting points,like Second Life, as a fourth place because it has a very differenttime-space dynamic than a physical third place, especially when takinginto account the possibility of perpetual access via mobile. I haven’tseen Starbucks turn up yet in Second Life, but probably will soon. Atleast when travelling in cyberspace, location-based services will workwith hyper-accuracy. I wonder if there should be a cross-over though -if I post a message about Starbucks lousy chai tea latte (it seems themost inconsistently made drink they offer) in the virtual store, willit make its way to the physical one?

http://wirelesswonders.blogspot.com/2006/09/fourth-places.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Place

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Cityscape LocativeLab.org is Ronald Lenz's research website on locative & mobile media. This is mostly an archive of blogposts I find inspiring and interesting and an overview of my work. I'm a strategist, technologist and researcher in the field of Location-Based Mobile Services and work at Waag Society, a medialab in Amsterdam, The Netherlands where I head the Locative Media research program and at 7scenes, a platform for GPS games and tours as creative director. Picture 4 Find me at Twitter, LinkedIn or via ronald [at] waag [dot] org.

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